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OlberJ
15-01-2008, 20:22
There's a non-mag day happening up at Crail on Sun 2nd March.

Any of the Scottish lads (or even Sassenach's with a weekend to spare) fancy heading up and getting some 1/4 mile times in?

Shugs - You'll have it back by then, no?
Murf - See how much difference the map has made?
Me - If i can sort the 4 wires.
Lee - It be done by then?
Marc - Fancy it?
Anyone else?

It should be quite quiet being a non magazine day and you'll get a good few runs in. Plus it should still be quite cold so plenty nice dense air to suck up.

I reckon i'm going up anyways so who's for joining me?

millentubby
15-01-2008, 20:29
Start of the month = pennies.

I'm in if I can get time off work.

Lee
15-01-2008, 20:49
If I'm here, and the car is ready :pray: I'll def give it a whirl, see what the old girl has got:thumbsup:

The non mag days are pretty good, and your not stood queuing waiting for your run. Saying that I only did 3 last time, didn't want to break anything:hidesbehi

Murf
15-01-2008, 22:47
Yeah, i should be up for this, if the fecking thing is working by then!!
Never done a 1/4 mile before, whats the best plan of attack?

weegaz22
16-01-2008, 00:47
i reckon i could be up for it as well, got a bit of a crunch coming from 4th gear but i'll kill the box before i replace it, a day at crail might just do it!:driving:

just need to sort a few niggles out first but will do that once i get my tools from my old mans house and a decent day to do it

much is it for a run/session?


olber, why dont you arrange a weekend where a few of us come over and can get your car wired up and going? that way you have time to sort out any little niggles before you take it to crail?


murf- get your injector yet?

millentubby- its only 2 days away from the end of the previous month;)

Shugsta
16-01-2008, 02:28
It's looking good for me Olie. Anyone coming from the West, just batter up the M8 to Livi and over to wards the bridge via Winchburgh, It's a pretty direct route to the Forth Bridge. MT I'd imagine that's a pretty straight route for you too. Could meet at mine on the way there.

OlberJ
16-01-2008, 10:14
Sounds like it could be a winner then, sweet.

Gaz, am off all next week so gonna get everything done then. The wiring is actually done, believe it or not lol It's just the leak to sort, the exhaust, the clutch pipes, the brake pipes, the front suspension and an ARB to sort. Oh and the gear cables too. If anyone wants to drop by next weekend i'll hopefully have it running by then.

February will be my shakedown month though so should be fine for this :thumbsup:

Add your name to the list if you're coming then :

1) OlberJ - MK1.6
2) MT - Mk1.6?
3) Lee - Mk2V6SC
4) Murf - Mk1.5
5) Gaz - Mk1.5
6) Shugs - Mk1.5

Dunno how much they charge now but it used to be £5 to get in then £20 for as many runs as you can do, i'll find out for sure though.

Personally i'll be happy to get into the 13's, anyone else got an aim?

Murf, best bet is to practice launching, get the max revs you can pull away with with just a tiny bit of wheelspin.

I used to launch my car off the handbrake when i had the 205 but not sure if you can do that on a RWD car? Anyone know for sure?

biteme
16-01-2008, 10:26
I think you should be aiming for
Olber 13.5-13.9,
MT 13.5-13.9,
Lee 13.0-13.5
Gaz 12.8-13.3
Shugs 24.0-28.0 (just kidding lol ... 12.8-13.3)

Once the V6 gets more use and we can iron some things about, I reckon we could take 0.75 to 1 second off the times with minor mods!

millentubby
16-01-2008, 10:56
Gotta remember that Crail has a shit surface - so I'd add a few tenths to account for poor traction.

biteme
16-01-2008, 11:10
Bad drivers always blame something else!


lol lol lol

millentubby
16-01-2008, 11:17
Just going by what I'm told - haven't done a 1/4 mile run before!

I think at the normal 'thrash' days it's around £5-£7 to get in and £15 for unlimited runs on the strip and drift oval.

millentubby
16-01-2008, 11:29
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAiLMBb5YT4&feature=related

Just watch out for these fellas :D

weegaz22
16-01-2008, 12:42
Gotta remember that Crail has a shit surface - so I'd add a few tenths to account for poor traction.


not to mention its in scotland so itll probably be freezing and pissing it down, hopefully its not and we get a few good runs in

i would say im looking at 13's going by what everyone ran at the pod, wasnt stu the only one to hit the 12's?

smccullie
16-01-2008, 12:51
count me in wont have a 1.5 by then but will have a standard mk1 to run.
been a few times to crail with my rolla gti and r19 16v good day out and when its not a mag day usually get a lot of runs

millentubby
16-01-2008, 14:38
Deffo gotta have some standard mk1's/mk2's so we can get a worthwhile data set.

Marksman
16-01-2008, 18:19
...wasnt stu the only one to hit the 12's?

Yup and just to rub it in he costed over the line at 80mph having broken the gearbox after 1/8 mile and free-wheeled the other 1/8!

Owen.

David Sleith
16-01-2008, 18:53
Did you get that turbo boosting right Gary?

Would have thought she is running a bit light at 216Bhp after that rolling road test. Should think she should be up around the 240 mark

weegaz22
16-01-2008, 19:07
Did you get that turbo boosting right Gary?

Would have thought she is running a bit light at 216Bhp after that rolling road test. Should think she should be up around the 240 mark


thats one of the niggles i was talking aboutlol

havent really done much to the car due to the weather and dark nights

going to take the acutator off and stick a few washers on it, should add a little more preload to the spring to see if that helps any, if not then ill inspect the stock recirc valve and turbo itself, the chargecooler is now holding all its coolant as i stuck an expansion tank from a proton on it, seems to have cured it

also got a set of supercharger lights there to go on it, but need to go buy a new plate for them, then make a start on colour sanding the paintwork


you make it to crail in the supercharger?

smccullie
16-01-2008, 19:19
think i still have a set of racing tyres and alloys from my old rolla gti kicking about could bring them if anyone wants to use them on the rear

David Sleith
16-01-2008, 19:39
Don't think its the actuator as changed it over to one Paul gave me and didn't make any difference.

My money was on the exhaust at the start but I my be changing my mind to the BOV.

S/C has been SORNED since last year and just got no time. Should have been off this week and have ended up working a 37 hour week. Its all on double time so two weeks extra pay coming.

The fiesta had its gearboxed swapped over on Sat night as I'm sure my neighbours will verify as I was battering about in the garage till 1am.

Once I finished with the Uni stiff I was contemplating making a kit car up from the Mk1 in the garden using a home made chassis a la lotus seven style but with the engine in the back. Use the rear suspension and geometry setup from the MK1, using the old chassis as a template and incorporate a lotus seven wishbone setup at the front if I can get the Mk1 hubs to accept it.

smccullie
16-01-2008, 19:40
oh found this on there web site its me in the rolla racing a gti colt in 2002

http://www.crailraceway.co.uk/image.asp?ImageID=488&date=2002-07-28&make=&category=

and i found another

http://www.strathycruise.com/events/crail020812.htm

look for the lift on the front of the car :driving:

weegaz22
16-01-2008, 20:35
Don't think its the actuator as changed it over to one Paul gave me and didn't make any difference.

My money was on the exhaust at the start but I my be changing my mind to the BOV.



im off tomorow so i might try and plug up the stock bov and see if theres any change in the boost pressure, if not then ill pull off the downpipe and check the wastegate and blades are ok at a later date

you had mentioned that the actuator was assisted by the backpressure in the exhaust, which is why i was looking to preload the actuator as swapping stock for stock wouldnt do anything other than prove the original actuator was duff

OlberJ
16-01-2008, 21:15
oh found this on there web site its me in the rolla racing a gti colt in 2002

http://www.crailraceway.co.uk/image.asp?ImageID=488&date=2002-07-28&make=&category=

and i found another

http://www.strathycruise.com/events/crail020812.htm

look for the lift on the front of the car :driving:

My last trip up there :

http://www.showoffyourcar.com//cars/PEUGEOT/1662.jpg
http://www.showoffyourcar.com//cars/PEUGEOT/1660.jpg
http://www.showoffyourcar.com//cars/PEUGEOT/1664.jpg

Same run that i managed my 14.361 on :thumbsup:

As long as i beat that with the mk1.6 am a happy chappy.

Murf
16-01-2008, 21:21
Didnt know you used to have a skyline?!
It was nice of you letting the twat in the peugeot with only one headlight win :)

OlberJ
16-01-2008, 21:28
Aye, i let him win twice aswell. The Fewl.

millentubby
16-01-2008, 21:37
Didnt know you used to have a skyline?!
It was nice of you letting the twat in the peugeot with only one headlight win :)

Skylines only win when they're racing for pinks y0!

weegaz22
16-01-2008, 22:02
syline lost cos it was weighed down with 3.5 ton of horrible fibreglass sat on the boot lid

Lee
16-01-2008, 22:23
This was my first ever time at Crail

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a341/leewa79/Crailthrash3Oct69-1.jpg

Got my arse handed to me on a plate as the video shows

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=3308168112775740607&hl=en-GB

Hopefully things will be better this time, however with the skylines, they're easy prey ;)

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a341/leewa79/Crailthrash3Oct52-2.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a341/leewa79/Crailthrash3Oct53.jpg

OlberJ
16-01-2008, 22:29
Aye, especially when they're only GTS-T's :whistle:

David Sleith
17-01-2008, 09:13
im off tomorow so i might try and plug up the stock bov and see if theres any change in the boost pressure, if not then ill pull off the downpipe and check the wastegate and blades are ok at a later date

you had mentioned that the actuator was assisted by the backpressure in the exhaust, which is why i was looking to preload the actuator as swapping stock for stock wouldnt do anything other than prove the original actuator was duff

Might still be the backpressure issue as putting the exhaust restrictor in the downpipe to exhaust connection did change things

kenny
21-01-2008, 19:17
yeah i think im gonna come to this if thats cool. colin told me about it so would be good to get some runs done

OlberJ
21-01-2008, 20:35
Hell yeah, it's not us organising it, just turn up and do the runs on the day, it's open to anyone.

Will be good to get all these TB cars down the strip though, See if we can beat Jinja's terrible 13.9 :hand: lol

weegaz22
22-01-2008, 15:43
anyone bringing a camera? get a few runs on video

smccullie
22-01-2008, 16:01
ye good idea i will bring my cam but dont know what like the video part of its like

will have to get a few incar racing vids :driving: will be good to see how the 1.5 and 1.6 pull against a standard 4age

OlberJ
22-01-2008, 16:27
Murf will have his am sure, i'll try and get myself one too.

kenny
22-01-2008, 21:15
will try and bring my camera along also for this if i remember

Murf
22-01-2008, 21:19
Aye, i'll bring my camcorder! :driving:

weegaz22
23-01-2008, 03:33
so who's stripping the interior out of their car for weight saving? lol

weegaz22
05-02-2008, 21:15
bump

get the engine out of the 2 yet olber? not long to go till the 2nd

OlberJ
05-02-2008, 21:42
Last weekend's shitey weather put a hold on it but am mega skint so gonna be in every weekend till then, apart from our trip to Widdlesport on Sat.

Gonna drop it Sunday hopefully.

weegaz22
05-02-2008, 21:46
good stuff, well the offers still there if you need a hand:thumbsup:

OlberJ
05-02-2008, 21:47
Cheers geeza, much appreciated. I'll let you know when i get back from Woodsport on Saturday and if you wanna drop over you're more than welcome.

Marksman
06-02-2008, 00:21
Shnarf.

Marksman
06-02-2008, 00:21
Shnarf.

Portgordon
06-02-2008, 19:28
I've just seen this!

I actually burst out laughing at your video Lee - lol - when the camera pans accross from the white 2 storming down the track to your 2 it looks like your out for a casual drive! lol

I'm up for this and I'm sure I'll embarrass myself just as bad if not worse as I've never done it before.

OlberJ
06-02-2008, 20:35
Ach it's easy Marc, jus rev and go.

Nice juan :thumbsup:

jimi
08-02-2008, 02:43
This was my first ever time at Crail
Got my arse handed to me on a plate as the video shows

I'm not surprised, I'm pretty sure that was Jav's monster ;)

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/jimilawson/jaffa/slides/jaffa%2018.jpg

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/jimilawson/jaffa/slides/jaffa%2010.jpg

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/jimilawson/jaffa/slides/jaffa%2012.jpg

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/jimilawson/jaffa/slides/jaffa%2011.jpg

biteme
08-02-2008, 08:15
Frig me ... that's gonna lag, but when it goes .....

jimi
08-02-2008, 09:20
Same car on the rollers at JAE
CLICKY (http://www.mr2oc.net/jimi/JAFFA.WMV) It's quite a big clip ( 26 Mb ) so I can't leave it up for long, enjoy it while it's up ;)

OlberJ
08-02-2008, 09:29
enjoy it while it's up ;)

:hand: lol

jimi
08-02-2008, 10:02
Pervert :redface: :thebird:

Portgordon
08-02-2008, 11:52
Thats an amazing sounding machine! What figures did it make on that run? (far too many numbers on that screen for me to work out whats going on lol

OlberJ
11-02-2008, 11:57
Jus posting in this thread to see if it's still alive?

millentubby
11-02-2008, 12:25
I'm hoping to have mine built and running by then, but I doubt the engine will be fully run in.

I'll aim to be there, but not on the strip.

OlberJ
11-02-2008, 12:46
I'll give you a shot in mine if it's done in time chief.

Should i post this on other forums too d'u reckon?

OlberJ
11-02-2008, 12:49
PortGrodon and whoever else posted, can you repost what you did as it's not come up on here. Cheers.

millentubby
11-02-2008, 12:49
depends - how long do you want to wait to get on the strip? ;)

OlberJ
11-02-2008, 12:57
Aye, fair point. Secret meet it is then lol

Lee
18-02-2008, 21:12
How are things looking for this then fellas?

I'm definitley rota'd to be working, but I'll take the Sunday off without pay to get a go down the strip. Will be good for comparison if Mark and myself can get a run together, see what difference the headwork does :driving:

Murf
18-02-2008, 21:16
I'm still game, my car (at the moment!) is working too, fingers crossed!

OlberJ
18-02-2008, 21:16
Yep definitely still on, am a mibbes for the 1.6 if i can't get the car running and MOT'd in time but i'll definitely be there in something.

Shugsta
18-02-2008, 22:35
I'll be there... some other petrolhead mates coming along too. They're dying to see some 1.5's etc in action.

weegaz22
18-02-2008, 22:58
so how about arranging a meeting point for the glasgow-ish guys and head to crail ala a brutal convoy, what time do you have to sign in at?

OlberJ
18-02-2008, 23:00
That's a good idea Gaz.

You can sign on anytime but it opens at either 8 or 9am.

I'd say, meet at the Bellshill McD's for about 8am?

Portgordon
18-02-2008, 23:20
I'm hopefully still up for this, I've got some new tyres arriving tomorrow. Have you picked up your car Lee?

Lee
19-02-2008, 10:42
Picking up imminently matey :)

The V6 should have a decent run in by then, so should be fine for the strip. I'll probably drive down with Mark, and see you chaps there. :)

smccullie
19-02-2008, 21:42
i am still up for it will bring a clapped out aw11 and if we get the ae102 with a 4age in will bring that as well all looking good :thumbsup: heading up from inverkeithing if anyone want to meet up on the way

OlberJ
19-02-2008, 22:34
That's a point, if the V6 ain't workin i'll get an alternator for the t-bar and bring that, forgot it was there lol

OlberJ
21-02-2008, 13:37
Do we wanna meet up with the Easties at the Forth Road Bridge and Convoy up from there?

It'll take us about half an hour to get there from Bellshill so say meet at the bridge for 8.30am?

Then it's 44 miles from there to Crail. Get there about 9.30am.

Sound like a plan?

smccullie
21-02-2008, 18:46
sounds good to me

Murf
21-02-2008, 21:49
Good plan :)

Shugsta
22-02-2008, 01:16
Am up for that. How about meeting here? It's just over the bridge, stay's close to the A90 and should have plenty parking:


Ferrytoll Bus Park and Ride
FERRYTOLL PARK & RIDE
HOPE STREET
INVERKEITHING
KY11 1LN

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g97/shugsta_2006/ParkRide.jpg

smccullie
22-02-2008, 13:07
i can see the park and ride from my balcony wll see you there

OlberJ
22-02-2008, 13:17
Hopefully you'll hear us before you see us :mrgreen:

OlberJ
22-02-2008, 14:04
Been reading on PH that there was over 100 speeding fines handed out on the way up to Crail last weekend.

Granted it was for the Fast Car opener so rich pickings for the polis but methinks we should be very carefull on our way up and back down.

Marksman
22-02-2008, 18:34
:idea: Or you could just put a copy of Johnny's numberplate on all of your cars and then drive as fast as you like. :popcorn:

Owen.

biteme
22-02-2008, 19:25
:idea: Or you could just put a copy of Johnny's numberplate on all of your cars and then drive as fast as you like. :popcorn:

Owen.

Because if they knew it was your car's plate then anything over 30mph would obviously be someone else?

weegaz22
22-02-2008, 23:57
Because if they knew it was your car's plate then anything over 30mph would obviously be someone else?

they would know its not you johnny, your casnt hasnt moved in months nevermind moved over the speed limit lol

biteme
23-02-2008, 11:28
they would know its not you johnny, your casnt hasnt moved in months nevermind moved over the speed limit lol

you mean one of my cars .... :P

OlberJ
23-02-2008, 20:15
Unlikely the V6 is gonna be ready in time, as i still need MOT, tax, insurance, wheel alignment and actually get the thing running lol

Will be there in either the t-bar or Weebles CRX/Type-r Accord.

jimi
23-02-2008, 20:31
Just remember that the Kingdom has no fixed camera's, they are all mobile so could be anywhere, A92 is a favourite ;)

Murf
24-02-2008, 22:39
Doubt i'll have enough fuel left to break the speed limit anyway!!

Olie, bring the CRX :)

OlberJ
24-02-2008, 23:03
It's up to Weebles, think he'll wanna bring the new toy though.

Marksman
25-02-2008, 01:36
Once again, would you chaps please move Scotland nearer to Wales.

Thanks in advance,

Owen.

OlberJ
25-02-2008, 09:42
We've discussed this before, jus need to get rid of the no-man's land in the middle and we're laughing.

Imagine the road trips :eek2:

OlberJ
27-02-2008, 10:34
Weather forecast : http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/5day.shtml?id=2369

Getting better as Saturday was meant to be pishing down when i looked yesterday.

Let's hope it carries over to the Sunday. :thumbsup:

millentubby
27-02-2008, 10:38
I won't be able to make this unfortunately guys - can't get the time off work and when I finish at work (around 2pm) I've got to go up the road to Fife to have dinner with the parents for Mothers Day.

Olie - give me a buzz when you guys are heading back down the road and I might be able to catch up with you guys for a quick pit stop and a natter.

OlberJ
27-02-2008, 10:53
Kewlio, i'll drop that pocvipped valve off for ya. If you're no in i'll jus stick it on your engine for you :mrgreen:

weegaz22
27-02-2008, 11:03
Kewlio, i'll drop that pocvipped valve off for ya. If you're no in i'll jus stick it on your engine for you :mrgreen:


are there any spacers that come with it?lol :hidesbehi

millentubby
27-02-2008, 11:06
Perhaps I could meet you guys in Cupar? My folks only stay around ten miles away from Crail y'see!

OlberJ
27-02-2008, 11:24
I mite take the CRV up, chances are with the complete lack of traction up there in the rain you'll get your ass handed to you by a Diesel 4x4.

Space that!

OlberJ
27-02-2008, 11:31
Aye, trundle the Rover on Over and we'll meet you on the way home.

weegaz22
27-02-2008, 17:19
I mite take the CRV up, chances are with the complete lack of traction up there in the rain you'll get your ass handed to you by a Diesel 4x4.

Space that!


no problem, ill just blame it on a misfire due to 4 wires not being connected:gay:

still gotta put actuator and all that back on, hopefully my bodge will keep the arm on the wastegate, and add those preload washers in as well

OlberJ
27-02-2008, 18:42
Kewl :thumbsup: Am really looking forward to it, i'll be dotting about taking lots of pictures.

We'll get everyone to park up together at sum point too.

weegaz22
01-03-2008, 14:56
looks like i wont make it tomorow lads, got actuator arm on but cant get/bodge anything to keep it from coming off again, ill order up a couple of circlips from toyota to make sure fucker never comes off again, also got actuator preloaded by about 5mm so its taken out all the slack that seemed to be there.

tis a bugger as i was looking forward to it

OlberJ
01-03-2008, 15:17
Bugger indeed Gaz. There nowt else you can use?

Everyone else still ok for 2moro? I know Murf's itching to go if his missus will let him, seein as it's soooo dangerous :ghey:

Shugsta, which car you gonna be up in?

Marc n Lee, you's all set, sheep packed and ready to roll?

Unfortunately i'll be there in the HGV taking pics but i'll bring a few tools with me jus incase anyone needs to sort anything while we're up there. TB support vehicle is in effect! :mrgreen:

Weather report is getting better : Light Showers with Sunshine (http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/5day.shtml?id=2369)

Will be nice and cool so expect some good times if you've got traction.

Am all excited, not been up in quite a while so should be a good laugh.

1st meeting point is Bellshill McD's for us Westerlies, leaving there at 8am.

2nd meeting point is at the ferry carpark thing Shugs pointed out for 8.30am.

3rd meeting place is Crail for about 9.30/10am

The thing normally runs till 4pm so you got plenty time to get your money's worth. And yes i will be blagging passenger rides in everyones car lol

If you're in any doubts whether to come along or not, then definitely do, even if it's just to meet up with everyone and talk Two's definitely head along for the banter.

And i do believe this will be TB's 1st Scottish meet. :jump:

May they be plentifull and funfilled. :thumbsup:

weegaz22
01-03-2008, 15:32
its just the getting access to it thats the problem, i tried making up a few clips to hold it on but trying to put the clip on with your single index finger is proving a tad challenging, id rather do it right first time than have to pull it all off cos my bodge fell off, knowing my luck it would fall off as i entered crail

OlberJ
01-03-2008, 15:35
That's fair enough i suppose, shame though :sad:

weegaz22
01-03-2008, 15:41
yeah, had been meaning to get it done during the week but between college and work i aint had much time for the car, bit of a pisser as i was looking forward to it, can hit the next non-mag day i suppose

OlberJ
01-03-2008, 15:42
Aye, if this turns out to be good, as i reckon it will, we can make it a common occurence.

I know i'll be back up if this thing ever runs lol

weegaz22
01-03-2008, 15:44
any closer to getting it to fire up?

OlberJ
01-03-2008, 15:46
Gotta take the loom out, should be out doing it now :whistle:, and send it to Paul with the ECU for testing.

Ordered some nice new shiny bits for it too but i'll update the build thread.

OlberJ
01-03-2008, 16:15
Here's all the dates for 2008 :

CRAIL RACEWAY EVENTS FOR 2008
February
17th Sunday Fast Car - 2008 Season Opener

March
2nd Sunday Crail Thrash / ¼ Mile Drag & Drift
16th Sunday Performance Ford returns to Crail – see Scotland’s best Fords on the strip
22nd Saturday Dunfermline Car Club Tarmac Rally
30th Sunday Classic Ford & Retro Day

April
13th Sunday Tora! Tora! Tora! Jap Attack – BANZAI returns
27th Sunday Regular Thrash - Drag & Drift

May
4th Sunday MAX POWER – Drag & Drift The biggest petrol heads event of the year CARS! GIRLS! Main stage & all the usual mag madness NOT TO BE MISSED!
25th Sunday Regular Thrash – Drag & Drift

June
8th Sunday Regular Thrash – Drag & Drift
14th Saturday Tarmac Rally Dunfermline Car Club
15th Sunday Tarmac terrorists tear up Crail Raceway at this two day event – If they can last the pace!
22nd Sunday TOTAL VAUXHALL – all makes & models welcome

July
6th Sunday Regular Thrash - Drag & Drift
20th Sunday FAST CAR Crail Thrash.
Our next big car show of 2008, see FC team return to see Scotland’s ultimate road warriors both drag, drift and show & shine

August
3rd Sunday Regular Thrash – Drag & Drift
17th Sunday Ultimate Scottish Street Car
31st Sunday Regular Thrash – Drag & Drift

September
14th Sunday Regular Thrash – Drag & Drift
28th Sunday FAST FORD – Retro and custom car day at Crail Raceway

October
12th Sunday Regular Thrash – Drag & Drift
26th Sunday MAX POWER FIRE SHOW – Our last big event of 2008 goes out with a bang. Fireworks, bonfire and jet vehicles blast and burn.

November
1st Saturday GMC Rally – Dunfermline Car Club
9th Sunday Regular Thrash – Drag & Drift
23rd Sunday Regular Thrash – Drag & Drift

Murf
01-03-2008, 19:46
Hmm, weather doesnt look to good :rant:

Still, Bellshill McDonalds for 8am, see y'all there!

402 New Edinburgh Rd,
Bellshill.
Lanarkshire.
ML4 3HH

That the one?

smccullie
01-03-2008, 20:23
well me and my brother are still going to go will meet you all at 8.30 at the ferry car park in inverkeithing wont be in my brothers mk1 tho as he has left his keys up in perth to day so we wont have the alternator changed by tomorrow so will be in the 406 might take it down the strip for the crack tho :driving:

Lee
01-03-2008, 21:28
See you chaps there. Setting off at 8 with Portgordon, so will be down by at least 10 :thumbsup:

Be good to get some decent pictures and video! :driving:

Gary Symons
01-03-2008, 21:53
And lets see some quick timeslips added too :thumbsup:
http://forums.twobrutal.com/timeslips.php?

Portgordon
01-03-2008, 22:29
Oooh looks like we'll get the first mk2 v6's added to the timeslips :D

Portgordon
02-03-2008, 07:41
OlberJ - in case you have a look on here before you head out, My Mob number is 07951 589761 give me a text with your number so we can get in touch if we can't find you ;)

Cheers,

Mark

smccullie
02-03-2008, 16:17
Turned out a great day. I'm sure murf will have his times posted when he gets back(I'm not tell'in) We will have pics up has soon as.

Shugsta
02-03-2008, 16:31
Sorry I missed this fellas. lookin forward to the update.

weegaz22
02-03-2008, 17:02
aye, looking forward to the update

Gary Symons
02-03-2008, 18:28
:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn::popcorn:

indica1
02-03-2008, 18:38
Hi guys,just registered 5 minutes ago,thought I would introduce myself on this thread as I was smoked by one of the members today at Crail!:praise2:
Can't remember the boy's name but hopefully I'll get a hand with that one.
Anyway,I'm Ian,27,from Rosyth and drive a pretty standard (at the moment) white Rev3 turbo.I'm sorry but can't add times yet as (stupidly) forgot to pick the slip up before I left.They should hopefully be posted quite soon on the Crail website so could get them up then.I wouldn't say they were that great as my gearbox could do with a recon.:fingersx: Best I got before was a 14.8 in the wet/rain.

smccullie
02-03-2008, 18:39
ok here are some pics

smccullie
02-03-2008, 18:42
more pics here http://www.orinett.com/crail.zip

vid here http://www.youtube.com/v/i_yuOEUnx9M

heres the m3 one from down the bottom end of the track one of slow runs of the day

http://www.youtube.com/v/yvwsmcHdnVc

indica1
02-03-2008, 19:09
Sorry,you'll probably struggle to help without any info! The guy that beat me was driving a white mk1 running a rev2 3sgte (the one in the photo's).
Thanks.

smccullie
02-03-2008, 19:18
:welcome: ye seen your white tubby there today looks a nice motor was it the white mk1 you raced

OlberJ
02-03-2008, 19:25
Yeah it was Murf you were talking to about this place.

Welcome Ian, that is one very clean and a bargain of a Mk2. :thumbsup:

Pics and vids on the way.

smccullie
02-03-2008, 19:32
was there any faster times after we left today

OlberJ
02-03-2008, 19:53
Leaving McD's at 8am :shock:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/OlberJ/Crail%2008/Murf3.jpg

As you can see the weather was a bit poo to start off with, someone forgot to tell Murf though :

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/OlberJ/Crail%2008/th_MOV00271.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v239/OlberJ/Crail%2008/?action=view&current=MOV00271.flv)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/OlberJ/Crail%2008/Murf2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/OlberJ/Crail%2008/Murf1.jpg

Some competition :

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/OlberJ/Crail%2008/Elise.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/OlberJ/Crail%2008/S2000.jpg

The 1st run of the day pretty much, say cheese :mrgreen:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/OlberJ/Crail%2008/th_MOV00273.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v239/OlberJ/Crail%2008/?action=view&current=MOV00273.flv)

Murf n Marc and Lee and the "standard" tubby.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/OlberJ/Crail%2008/th_MOV00274.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v239/OlberJ/Crail%2008/?action=view&current=MOV00274.flv)

Lee n Marc and Murf n the "standard" tubby.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/OlberJ/Crail%2008/th_MOV00280.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v239/OlberJ/Crail%2008/?action=view&current=MOV00280.flv)

Marc and Lee, showdown no.2
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/OlberJ/Crail%2008/th_MOV00288.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v239/OlberJ/Crail%2008/?action=view&current=MOV00288.flv)

Murf against a trailored Corsa
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/OlberJ/Crail%2008/th_MOV00290.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v239/OlberJ/Crail%2008/?action=view&current=MOV00290.flv)

Was a top day, good to meet the new folks and the old folks too. Think am a little sunburnt an all now.

Shugs, shame you couldn't make it, will head up next month and we'll both have a car to run :thumbsup:

Big cheers to Lee for my 1st drive in a V6, i just love that freakin noise :mrgreen:

Murf's mapped 1.5 is now officially a monster! Pure banging too man lol

Cheers to everyone for coming. It's gonna be the 1st of many i think.

Shugsta
02-03-2008, 20:30
Some nice runs there. Got any time slips?

Aye Olie, we'll be there next month...:driving:

OlberJ
02-03-2008, 20:35
There'll be time slips up tonight hopefully.

They come up on the Crail website too as Ian says so no porkies can be told :P

Murf's was definitely the car of the day, even managed to confuse the hell out of the announcer guy.

"And next up we have a Mk1 Mr2, a nice little revvy 1.6 16V.....no? It's a 2.0.....a 2.0 turbo......hmmmm, that's unusual, never heard of that" lol

He also got very confused when Marc and Lee went up to the start line with their 4 bangers making wierd V6 like noises.

His patter was crap too.

Lee
02-03-2008, 20:50
Here you are Shugs, sort of condensed but I'll do this while my videos are uploading. (takes ages on a mobile connection)
Run Time Terminal Speed mph

1: 15.575 93
2: 15.096 93.6
3: 14.949 93.4
4: 14.989 94.1
3: 15.096 93.4
4: 16.992 76.9 (olie missing 3rd)
5: 14.671 94.5
6: 14.555 95.1
7: 14.710 95.1
8: 14.519 95.1 <<<<<<Best Time
9: 14.930 93.4
10: 14.823 94.9
11: 14.764 95.3

there's lots of other figure 60ft etc, but I'd be typing them in all night. Best 60ft was 2.178 and ranged upto 2.9 (wet)

Figures should hopefully be up on their site soon. Videos coming in a bit :)

I thought his patter was ok, funny as hell when mark and me went up.

'and now 2 Mk2's one 2.0 litre turbo and an n/a (blips throttle) hang about that's not standard' lol lol

Portgordon
02-03-2008, 20:53
I'll get my timeslip up tomorrow when I scan it at work, I've popped the details of it in the timeslip section for now though.

My first ever time on a strip so I had a reeeeeeeet good time! I was pretty nervous for my first run but once you've done it once your hooked :D

My first time was 16.2 :doh: but it was a good starter to show me how not to start a drag - wheels'a'blazin! My next run was a second faster and after that they were pretty consistently low 15's. I was really hoping to get something in the 14's but alas it was not to be! I don't think my technique was too sloppy.

It was a great comparison going up against Lee's car. My car being completely Vanilla v6 (Viper induction and Blueflame exhaust) and Lee's having headwork, fidanza flywheel and the Y section reworked. We're going to have our cars dynoed at somepoint next week so we can see what the power difference is and see how that relates to the difference in the timings.

My Best time was 15.035 @ 93.9 wth a reaction time of 0.697.

I wish they would give you a 0-60 time - that would be interesting. And it would also be handy if they had displays at the end of the track, or on your route back so you could see how you did!

I had a fantastic day today and not one mechanical emergency so that was a bonus! :boogie:

I only took a few pics:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/Portgordon/MR2/02-03-08%20Crail/DSC00036.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/Portgordon/MR2/02-03-08%20Crail/DSC00045.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/Portgordon/MR2/02-03-08%20Crail/DSC00046.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/Portgordon/MR2/02-03-08%20Crail/DSC00048.jpg

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v192/Portgordon/MR2/02-03-08%20Crail/

OlberJ
02-03-2008, 20:53
Take a pic of the slip and post the pic up chief, it'll go onto your timeslip post as proof too.

And yes i did miss 3rd, top of 2nd, reached for 3rd, couldn't find it, thought i did but bogged down in 5th instead.

At least Marc was chuffed lol

Torque steer off the line was fun too :mrgreen:

Paul Hartley took Lee's car up the strip too apparantly lol

Gary Symons
02-03-2008, 20:59
Looks like the times are up::thumbsup:
http://www.crailraceway.co.uk/select_driver.asp

OlberJ
02-03-2008, 21:00
Pal Murphy lol

There's a lot to be gained from a good launch i see.

Need to see if my handbrake method works on a RWD car.

Portgordon
02-03-2008, 21:12
WooooHooooo, I thought I lost against the Lotus Elise but looks like I just nipped it:

http://www.crailraceway.co.uk/show_times.asp?CarNumber=84&RunDate=20080302&RaceID=691

OlberJ
02-03-2008, 21:13
That's 2 pieces of Loti arse spanked today.

Nice juan :thumbsup:

By the by 27th April looks like it'll be the next time we'll head up.

Murf
02-03-2008, 21:58
Wow, what a day!!!
Best time was 13.83 secs @ 102MPH against a mk2 turbo.
Got beaten twice from 12 runs.
1st was a WRX impreza, he got more grip off the line as the track was wet and slippy and looking at the stats he had superhuman reaction times of 0.2 secs!! 0.5 secs better than me and explaining why he won by 0.5 secs!!
2nd was some crazy twin turbo nissan that i was beating all the way up the strip, then he just gained on me at the end, he must have had a massive turbo!!

Cannon fodder of the day has to be beating a Lotus Exige, i still cant believe it!!

PAL MURPHY
13.974 sec sec
0.662 sec
2.328 sec
103.4 mph mph
Left lane

SIMON HIGGINS
15.065 sec sec
0.863 sec
2.744 sec
94.5 mph mph
Right lane

Apologies to Simon Higgins for making your brand new lotus look twatty in my 20 year old toyota lol

Was great to meet all you guys again, need to get modding and do it again soon!
Great that you found your way on here Ian, i passed you again in Inverkeithing when i was on my way home. I waved to you but i guessed you didnt recognise the front end of my car, much more used to the view of the rear :thumbsup: Get a decat and a boost controller ;)

Murf
02-03-2008, 22:01
Oh, and thanks to you all for telling me my RHS brake light was out, you can see it in almost every video!!

Got some cracking vids, not many pics, off for a look through them :)

Portgordon
02-03-2008, 22:09
I never noticed to be honest until I saw those videos!

OriRacer
02-03-2008, 22:20
Hi all just remembered I have a twobrutal login lol more video's

http://www.youtube.com/oritube

Was great fun next time I'll bring the mk1 if the alternator doesn't fall off again. Might even have a corolla GXI with a 4age if I pull my finger out.

OlberJ
02-03-2008, 22:34
"THAT" 300ZX :

http://clanjapan.freeforums.org/zed-rebuild-t293.html

Portgordon
02-03-2008, 22:40
whats your login details Ollie? :P

OlberJ
02-03-2008, 22:43
Berto Big Schlong

Password is Pinnochio. lol


Well, i cannae remember if i posted up saying that i damaged my engine after doing silly speeds.....
Anyway, the only way of remedying this.......is a rebuild.

Well, i dropped the car off in bristol, at a specialists workshop, and by the time i had driven home (7 and a half hours!!!) the engine was out of the car and in bits!

So, i've decided to up the power of it since i have a bit of spare cash.....heres the new spec list:

Oversized Wiseco pistons
Z1 GT600R Turbo's
External Wastegates
Divorced Downpipes
Nismo 555 injectors
Uprated Cosmetic Head Gaskets
Intake plenum Bypass
New oil pump
New water pump
Polished crank
Skimmer heads
John Dixon Chipped ECU
Greddy Profec B Spec II boost controller (running 20PSI ad 9PSI)
OS Giken Twin Plate Clutch........

Sure i've missed some things, but i'll add them later!
Hopefully should be pushing 400 ponies at the back wheels!

Lee
02-03-2008, 23:21
Probably explains the top end he had then, bloody shifted once he got grip!

Murf, I'd have had the Exige comfortably with that time ;)

Here's the vid, though I cocked up the title:

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a341/leewa79/th_02032008025.jpg (http://s14.photobucket.com/albums/a341/leewa79/?action=view&current=02032008025.flv)

I think there is a low 14 with my car in its current state, but probably not in my (un)skilled hands. I got within .35 secs of my time in with the rev 2 engine which had a boost increase. So not too shabby I guess.

I'll post all the videos I have tomorrow, as I have loads, and they are taking an age to upload.

Top day lads :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

welsha
03-03-2008, 15:22
was there any std mr2's - ie ones with the orginal engine type in them? lol

In the vid of Mark v Lee it's interesting to see Lee pull ahead once on the roll - more grunt from the ported heads I presume ( i hope )

OlberJ
03-03-2008, 15:56
Headwork, exhaust y-pipe, and minus 13 stone of idiot with a camera probably helped lol

Murf
03-03-2008, 18:25
Lee, can you email me the non "reduced in size for the internet" version of me Vs the exige, got a few people to show it too that might not believe it otherwise!!

Ive got a great vid of Mark Vs Lee, filmed from Marks car. Its dead even at the start and Lee just starts to pull away from 2nd onwards. Got to reduce them in size, then upload them :)

Murf
03-03-2008, 18:27
Oh, and that Nissan having 400BHP explains a lot!!

welsha
03-03-2008, 18:36
Headwork, exhaust y-pipe, and minus 13 stone of idiot with a camera probably helped lol

didn't want to mention the passenger part ;)

Murf - got a diagram for the power - might as make a 12v reg supply as well for the cost of it lol. mmm where for a soldering iron

Portgordon
03-03-2008, 19:17
Ive got a great vid of Mark Vs Lee, filmed from Marks car. Its dead even at the start and Lee just starts to pull away from 2nd onwards. Got to reduce them in size, then upload them :)

That doesn't sound like a great vid at all. No, no that doesn't sound like a great vid one bit! :moon:

Murf
03-03-2008, 19:24
mmm where for a soldering iron


Borrow mine :)

OlberJ
03-03-2008, 20:04
Marc, you're car's running the most "standard" V6 out there (Not a dig btw lol )

I'd give the home-brew mods and a new exhaust join a go, there's gotta be a few tenths from that. :thumbsup:

Murf
03-03-2008, 22:24
Ok, heres some vids up!

Lee Vs Mark, both with passengers on board!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsgGW7o_I08


Me Vs Ian (stock rev3 turbo)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZrJEDZpzD8

Me Vs 300zx

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QWJAJxfGWg

OlberJ
03-03-2008, 22:29
Sterling Camera work on the 2nd one :mrgreen:

I'll fucking hairdresser you boy lol

welsha
03-03-2008, 22:47
Ok, heres some vids up!

Lee Vs Mark, both with passengers on board!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsgGW7o_I08

.............

I reckon if Mark had left the ipod behind he'd have Lee there rotflmao

Portgordon
03-03-2008, 23:38
Ooooh I agree now it is a fantastic vid - nice one :D :driving:


I reckon if Mark had left the ipod behind he'd have Lee there rotflmao

I agree! heheheh.

Got my Timeslip uploaded:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/Portgordon/MR2/02-03-08%20Crail/15ad9a41.jpg